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Anonymous

02 Sep 2021

General Investing

Returns per year

Hi, I would like seek some kind advices here. I have a few setup, the usual suspects, in shares, in robo, ETF, Insurance, etc. the total sum is around SGD300k. I see that the total return is around 4-5% pa. Question, is this return ok? TIA.

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There are many ways you can benchmark your return on. Theres no right or wrong reference, and it is totally up to what you are most comfortable at.

Some examples are:

(1) "Risk-free rate". This means the rate of return if you invest in guarenteed return products out there. The universal benchmark would be the 10 year government bond yield rates (SG & US: 1.4%)

(2) CPF. OA - 2.5%, SA:4%. Usually used for people who invests using the CPF, or if you are thinking if its more worth it contribute to your CPF vs doing own investments. Note to factor in that you can only take out cpf money after 55 years old (cpf contributions/investing is more for parking in excess cash that you dont need now)

(3) Market returns. On average, the S&P 500 makes a 10% rate of return, SPDR STI ETF is around 2-3%?.

The whole idea of benchmarking is not to compare to others or to feel good, but more to help justify your choices between higher risk products vs guarenteed/proven low yielding products. I.e if you have 3-4% returns a year for US stock portfolio, wouldnt it be better to invest directly to S&P 500?

Rates are as per time of writting

Elijah Lee

07 Sep 2021

Senior Financial Services Manager at Phillip Securities (Jurong East)

Hi anon,

A total return of 5% p.a. is reasonable if your portfolio is spread across multiple asset classes.

Of course, the next thing would be to question how much volatility you are taking on for this level of returns.

5% p.a. returns with no risk is fantastic but only a part of your CPF monies can achieve that.

5% p.a. returns with 20% volatility is not something you'd want since that is quite a fair bit of volatility.

Don't chase returns. Chase risk-adjusted returns that have an acceptable volatility to you.

Hi, it is very subjective as we do not know the extent of volatility that you can take, your age gro...

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