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My wife & I are in our mid-40s. I have just been retrenched, she could lose her job soon. Advice needed on whether we can sustain our outflow till 80. Any recommendations and potential risks we should cater to?

We have total SGD $2.5M cash/FDs, $350k investment (SSB, STI ETF, US stocks), $1.14M CPF & no debt.

Medical insurance renewable until 75 & 2 $500k term life policies.

Live in small HDB with lease till our 90s. Have 2 ageing mothers in their 70s.

Projecting $7k monthly expenses post-retirement + 3% annual inflation

  • 2019 avg $7.5k
  • Last 3yr avg $7.4k
  • 5yr $7k
  • 10yr $6.9k
    Should diversify into multi-currencies, goes other than asset categories?
    Character limit, pardon brevity. Thanks!

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Colin Lai

06 Sep 2019

Client Adviser at MoneyOwl

Hi Pecah Lobang,

I am sorry to hear about your retrenchment and possibly your wife's too. I hope the situation improves on the employment front.

Working through the assets you have described is a very important step into planning for your financial security. Well done.

It is also heartening to see the clarity in which you have determined your expenses and long-term needs.

With regards to retirement risks, the classic 5 that were mentioned includes Overspending, Healthcare, Longevity, Market and Inflation. In addition, as retiring now means possibly another 45-55 years of non-employment, you do not thus have the usual steady stream of earned income to factor into your planning. It is also important to address additional dependents needs in alignment with your own.

Lastly, on risks, there are additional planning and planner risks to work through.

That being said I must suggest that finding work you enjoy while you still can is a valuable economic resource. Some would say it is your current most vital asset since there will come a day you no longer can work and this ability is out of reach.

Some pre-retirees who visit us often grapple with the disarming thought that they have so much time but so little resource to help them through the retirement years. They thus begin to worry and are in great need and urgency for a reliable, conflict-free and competent retirement solution. This is what MoneyOwl is set up for.

You see when we stop earning an income whether by choice or not, we still need to grapple with spending and to have enough to last us and our loved ones till we pass on. All the while maintaining our current lifestyles as much as possible. The balance can be addressed with lifestyle-based planning. Conventional goal-based planning is not able to account for this fine balance. We often say life begins now and not only when we retire!

With these in mind, I would like to suggest the following ways to sequence your planning considerations:

  1. Cashflow - understand what is important for your lifestyle now and into the future.

  2. Investment and insurance - use only low-cost solutions so that you get exactly the protection you need and choose well-researched investment assets that match your need, willingness and ability.

  3. Retirement - focus on how your cashflows can be carefully layered to provide a reliable amount of retirement income yet be inflation-hedged.

  4. Estate - prepare for undesirable end-of-life complications that may derail the best laid-out plans by reducing leakages, headaches and delays.

Next, you can move to structure your assets to better address your retirement needs. I would suggest looking to the following key take-aways:

  1. CPF Life (65 onwards)- Form a stable stream of income with CPF Life as your foundation. Current analysis puts CPF Life on par with a risk-free 6.5% p.a payout with the Singapore government's backing. Do note current payouts at 65 are not a guarantee of future payouts later on at 65. However, be cautious if you are being touted with insurance-related retirement income plans without a firm consideration for CPF Life first.

  2. CPF OA & SA (55 onwards)- from our experience, most pre-retirees are not aware that you can drawdown from your OA and SA to help provide income from 55 onwards. It is possible to have large amounts of money in OA and SA growing annually compounded at 2.5% and 4% respectively even with RA formed at 55. And to start drawing down from it as you would a bank account with no penalties.

  3. Investment- focus on having a larger portion of your funds in low-cost, research-backed, enhanced beta portfolios. You will need all the clarity you can get for this portion of your asset location into a globally diversified portfolio of developed markets, emerging markets and bonds. This because such a portfolio has been statistically significant in providing at least 30 years of income with the highest probability of success.

What is more fascinating is when we analysed '21 30-year rolling periods, our model shows a 100% probability that one can withdraw 4% of their starting portfolio value and adjust it annually for inflation to last 30 years.'

What this means to you is that $2 million generates $6,666/mth + about 2% more per year over 30 years.

Our research also points to the positive remaining fund value you might expect at the end of 30 years. This, we believe will surprise most people.

  1. Higher yielding but riskier investments- having a smaller portion of your overall assets in such investments may provide additional growth but do so only if you have the confidence and are certain about handling the risks involved. This is optional.

  2. Emergency fund- in retirement the most difficult times are when you need to tap into your assets mentioned earlier to meet an unexpected emergency. While insurance can address healthcare worries, a pool of money for a 'rainy day' still holds true. Consider SSBs for continued growth, about 1.9%, but are as liquid as a bank account. Set aside and do not touch this fund unless you absolutely have to.

I hope these broad strokes will help you understand what can be done to address your retirement outlook.

If you would like to consider a research-backed process to retirement planning, I invite you to visit us at the MoneyOwl office here at Keong Saik Road (beside Outram MRT).

MoneyOwl is a joint venture between NTUC Enterprise and Providend Holdings- where we combine decades of trusted service excellence with expertise in financial advisory and fund management.

If interested, you can reach me at [email protected] for a deeper conversation. I will be happy to introduce our diverse team with CPF, CFP and CFA expertise to assist you with your planning needs.

But before I sign-off, I hope you will be happy to hear that you have done well in having no debt and various funds to plan around with. But DON'T forget your current number 1 asset- yourself!

I hope you find meaningful work and passion and purpose for life so you can truly enjoy the fruits of your labour!

Or et labora.

Warmest regards,
Colin Lai

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S$2.5m in cash and FD seems like a bad idea. I'd be allocating a much bigger chunk of my funds to investments with a stronger yield. Even the STI ETF returns more than 4%, and a conservative portfolio of the better REITs and banks should deliver rather better than that. Of course, you shouldn't go all-in with stocks but working on the rule of 25 you should be in a fairly comfortable position. I'd be increasing my equity position to something like S$1.5m. That alone could return around S$6K per month fairly safely, with interest from your FDs you're already close to meeting your S$7k monthly expenses.

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Have you considered diversifying your asset classes into gold holdings?

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Before I will think of investing, I will first max out CPF as it gives guaranteed returns of 4%. You can consider topping up 2 old folks RA and MA, if not already max. RA will give them or you monthly payouts while earning 4% yearly, 5% for first 30k and 6% for first 60k. MA can help cover their and your medicals. Make sure CPF nominations are done for them with u or wife as beneficiaries. Next top up you and your wife's CPF (including MA) if not already max. Any spare cash, VC to all CPF accounts. Why top up you/wife CPF, so at 54, you can use this hack to give you max balance in SA after 55 to continue to earn 4%, interest withdrawal on demand. Hack read this http://smartinvesting18.blogspot.com/2019/06/ho...

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Cedric Jamie Soh

30 Aug 2019

Director at Seniorcare.com.sg

Mid-40s. Based on the current medical provision, you are only 1/3 of your life!

Your wife and you ...

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