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Asked on 03 Dec 2019

High monthly pay with average bonus vs Average monthly pay with high bonus?

Which is better and why?

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I would prefer a high monthly pay and an average bonus. Let me share a story when I graduated over 10 years ago.

Friend of mine landed a job in a shipyard. Pay was slightly below norm, but was told that the average bonus was in the region of 9 months.

That turned out to be true for about 2 -3 years, after which the industry hit a rough patch and bonuses got cut to 2-3 months. In terms of total pay package, she suffered a significant drop of more than 25%.

There's also a psychological aspect to it. Most people, when coming into a large sum of money, will tend to spend more than they should. There are exceptions, but this requires a lot of discipline. It's easier to set a monthly budget for spending/investing/etc on a monthly salary than on a yearly bonus. A bonus, is really just that, a bonus. Something 'extra' that is not guaranteed, and might even be missing in lean years. I always advocate saving at least 50% of a bonus for rainy days or retirement, since you do need to let loose and treat yourself once in a while.

Of course if you lack discipline, then a high monthly pay can also be squandered if you are not careful, since you will be thinking that you can afford something because your salary is coming next month.

In the end for me, it's high monthly pay with average bonus, but with a good dose of common sense in spending and saving injected into the mix.

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Choon Yuan Chan
Choon Yuan Chan
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

I would prefer average monthly pay with high bonus, This is because if your pay exceeds $6,000, employers dont need to pay additional employer CPF contribution exceeding $6,000. This is why many companies are willing to pay high monthly with little to no bonus.

Its cheaper for them in labour cost. and worse off to us because we get less CPF contribution

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Wallace Chai
Wallace Chai
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Answered on 06 Dec 2019

Prefer high monthly pay and average bonus. This is simply because bonus is not fixed. It depends on the company well doing and emoloyee performances. So if the company is not doing well for this year, they can just cut down on the bonus.

Another thing is that when you trying to get another job with higher salary, they will follow your basic salary. They do not care about how much is your bonus.

Lets say basic 3k, bonus 6months.

Annual gross = 54k

Then for the new job, you simply can't ask for more than 4.5k basic.

Lets say basic 4k, bonus 2 months

Annual gross = 56k

Then for the new job, you can try to ask for 5k. Then this will fetch gross of 60k income before bonus.

After all, bonus is not obligated to be given to you but salary is.

Hope this helps

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Hwee Kian
Hwee Kian
Level 7. Grand Master
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

Hi Anon,

Simply average it out and see how one compares to the other. Having said that, if you're in a cyclical industry with high bonus, then you might need to weigh the risk vs benefits as high bonus might not be always high bonus.

For myself, I prefer the former as I prefer better certainty, given that the entire package is good enough.

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Cedric Jamie Soh
Cedric Jamie Soh, Director at Seniorcare.com.sg
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Answered on 22 Dec 2019

Its up to you?

I prefer average monthly pay with high bonus (jackpot). this partly explains why I always take up jobs and doing my own business that have high returns only if it works out successfully.

It also make sure I put in my best effort to make it successfully.

My stand is that an average pay is fine for normal living, a high monthly pay doesn't make a difference in my life

but a huge bonus can change my life dramatically.

I am aiming for those big differences in my life. Big bonus always!

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Bjorn Ng
Bjorn Ng
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Answered on 22 Dec 2019

Prefer high monthly pay as that is "guaranteed" per say. And also, your bonus is tagged onto your monthly pay as well. When you look for another job, they are also basing it on your monthly pay.

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Isabel Wong
Isabel Wong
Level 6. Master
Answered on 05 Dec 2019

High monthly pay with average bonus. However this should not be the main consideration when deciding on a job.

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Kim Heok S
Kim Heok S
Level 4. Prodigy
Answered on 05 Dec 2019

High monthly pay, my bonus can be taken from me if the company is not doing well, but you can't take away my basic pay!

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Dawn Fiona
Dawn Fiona
Level 7. Grand Master
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

High monthly pay with average bonus, because your bonus isn't guaranteed. Just look at the oil industry. Or this https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/restraint-for-civil-servants-year-end-bonus-in-dec-amid-economic-uncertainties-public

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SK
Stacy Kuah
Level 4. Prodigy
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

I would take a higher base pay, bonuses are after all not guaranteed. Prefer to have money in the bank rather than potentially in the bank, if you know what I mean.

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Junus Eu
Junus Eu
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

High monthly pay - mainly because bonus could be cut any time.

This is a true story - some of my peers join a place on the promise of a high bonus, but when it came down to it, there was no bonus for reasons of company not hitting targets. It even came down to management telling employees that they should be happy to be employed, let alone think about bonus.

No matter high or low pay, one should always practice prudence when it comes to spending.

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HC Tang
HC Tang, Financial Enthusiast, Budgeting at The Society
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Updated on 26 Dec 2019

High monthly pay with average bonus.

Reason:

  1. Company usually pay bonus at end of annual accounting period. Higher salary means every month you get more $ than later. This is especially good when you can get the $ to invest first rather than later. Also when you decide to resign, there's no need to ponder for the lost of bonus or wait for post bonus to resign.

  2. Employee cpf contribution ceiling is 6k. So if your salary is above 6k, the rest is your take home pay for savings / investment. While bonus is also subject to cpf employee deduction on your end, so this way you will be forced to contribute more into cpf. Not saying cpf is bad, but it's better you take the $ and save or invest or voluntarily contribute to your cpf a/c rather than being forced to.

  3. Final reason, HR always based on last drawn to offer you salary package. So a higher monthly pay ialso marks a higher starting point for next job HR to calculate your basic pay based on that baseline.

Cheers.

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VC
Vicki Chng
Level 6. Master
Answered on 24 Dec 2019

The former. Bonuses are subjected to changes, and if the economy doesn't well you'll be affected. And it's a bonus, which means you shouldn't expect it. It's a bonus if you get, if you don't, then it just your monthly pay.

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Larissa Lim
Larissa Lim
Level 4. Prodigy
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

I would prefer high monthly and average bonus becos i wont get tied down to wait for the bonus. Also, nowadays some company gives bonus mid year and end year to prevent staff from leaving which im not fond of.

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Takingstock @
Takingstock @
Level 6. Master
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

Higher monthly pay... Why?

  • bonus is variable, it can easily be cut. Dont count on the promises or history. When bad times come, it is the first to be cut.

  • higher monthly pay means you and your employer contribute more cpf (in general, unless your monthly is more than 6k gross, which you hit the cap). Cpf interest is still calculated monthly, so you have the interest working silently in background. Use the interest to your advantage, whether you are using cpf to pay property loan or saving for retirement.

  • higher monthly pay means you can keep better control over paying the bills. If you were counting on the bonus to pay for something important and when it is not paid as per what you had in mind, you could end up in a major cash crunch. Best case you dip into savings, bad worse you could be borrowing to pay loans, or selling some stuff at the worst of times and incurring a loss during the process.

  • its really harder to negotiate for a higher monthly pay at the next job. This would set a benchmark the hiring person could use to negotiate down your package.

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GuanYuan Tan
GuanYuan Tan
Level 4. Prodigy
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

Definitely a high monthly pay; 1. u don't have to wait for the bonus payout when changing jobs 2. Easier to command a higher monthly pay on ur next job (and potentially higher bonus as well)

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Jasmine Tay
Jasmine Tay
Level 4. Prodigy
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

High monthly pay with average bonus, as second is a variable component. Might also help in budgeting plans as well.

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JW
jiajing wang
Level 5. Genius
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

I would go for high monthly pay as it will help me to diligently invest and save instead of having an average monthly pay with high bonus. The latter will affect your thinking especially if you had wanted to switch jobs, you will have a tendency to want to wait till u got the bonus

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Wilson Nid A Break
Wilson Nid A Break
Level 9. God of Wisdom
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

WIll choose high Monthly pay:

  1. Its guranteed vs bonus that is non-guaranteed and variable

  2. Its negotiable while bonus is usually non-negotiable, subjected to employers' discretion

  3. Its paid out monthly vs bonus thats is given at end of year (time value money)

  4. You get paid as you work, bonus might be forfeited if you leave before bonus is announced

  5. Higher monthly pay leads to even higher monthly pay if you change company

Only time I will choose bonus if bonus is linked to sales/profit generated and its transparent that the bonus will be proportionately greater than a higher monthly salary

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Eveline Lau
Eveline Lau
Level 6. Master
Answered on 03 Dec 2019

Assuming both will end up with the same annual package, I would prefer "high monthly pay with average bonus". Monthly pay is a guaranteed component while bonus is not not compulsory. In the event of a recession or the company just isn't doing well, they can jolly well not give any bonus. At least with a high monthly pay, I can have a larger secured pie. Additionally, with a high monthly pay, it gives me better bargaining power when trying to get the next job!

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